Wednesday, March 31, 2010

PostHeaderIcon Defense vs. Offense

The debate should the Bengals go offense in the 1st or defense in the first? Cases can be made for both sides and for the first time in a long time the team isn't facing a situation where there's a gaping hole and an absolute must has to be picked to fill a starting role. The Bengals could go a number of different ways and this hopefully deter teams from trading directly in front of them like New Orleans in 2008. If it happens this year there's almost certainly gonna be another player the Bengals like and is good value still on the board.

Lets start on the offensive side of the ball. Obviously Tight End is a need, I don't wanna sit through another year of Daniel Coats dropping and fumbling footballs. Gresham could be an elite player and could be the 1st round pick. Some say the Bengals don't use a TE enough to warrant a 1st round pick, but that's factually incorrect. The Bengals over the last 2 years have targeted the TE almost 5 times a game, and that's with some pretty bad players. I think if a good Tight End is brought in that number would certainly go up. As of now Bobbie Williams isn't resigned so Guard could be a pressing need and even if/when he resigns he is 34 and on the last leg of his career. Another possibility is Dez Bryant, a top 5 talent, could be sitting there at number 21. If that's the case you almost think that'd have to be the pick, a top 5 player picked 21st in the draft. The offense was inconsistent to say the least of last year. With how good the defense is you'd think an offense that scores 24 a game would win us 12 games this year, even with the tough schedule.

On Defense Safety is a position that could be adressed in the first. Both current starters have failed to play an entire season in a few years. Also they are both known for stopping the run and being mediocre against the pass. Another possibility is a pass rusher, after Odom went down last season the pass rush disappeared. He's yet to play a full season in the 2 years he's been here. Plus another pass rusher could take some double teams away from Odom or allow him to move inside and Micheal Johnson to play on the edge. At defensive Tackle the Bengals are pretty good, but in the AFC North you can never have enough depth on either line and using a 1st round pick on the D line is always a good thing. By the way this years DT class is loaded and probably the best DT class in the history of the draft.

I would argue for defense over offense and here's why. The coaches, on the defensive side of the ball the coaches are developing players way better than the offensive coaches are. Look at the last few years, Peko, Joseph, Hall, Ndukwe, and Sims. On offense the results aren't nearly as good. The 2 young WR's haven't developed like they should have for 2nd and 3rd round picks. Coffman couldn't get active last year. Really an argument could be made that Whitworth and Kyle Cook are the only 2 players they've done a good job developing and that's probably due to Paul Alexander. So why hand Bratkowski a shiny new player that he'll do nothing with. To add to the non-development is the most unimaginitive offensive coordinator in the NFL. Until he's shown the door I wouldn't feel good about using a 1st round pick on offense anywhere except the O line. The Bengals are set up to contend this year and a defensive player would make a more immediate impact.

PostHeaderIcon Pro Day Reports

It's reported on Rotoworld that Earl Thomas ran a 4.35 forty. McShay said he's had the best pro day of all the Longhorns. This most likely makes Thomas the 2nd Safety taken, hopefully he still makes it to the Bengals, but at this point they may need to trade up a few spots to get him.

Nate Allen was unable to run a forty at South Florida's pro day yesterday due to a pulled Quad. Allen may reschedule or just run for teams during individual workouts. However he did put up good times in the short shuttle 4.22 and 3 cone 6.46, which show he has good agility.

Jerome Murphy ran a 4.48 forty at South Florida's pro day. Murphy is a 3rd round prospect.

Brian Price reportedly looked sloppy and unimpressive at his pro day Tuesday. This isn't gonna help him recover after the 5.10 forty at the combine. Price may end up falling out of the 1st round completely after this out of shape performance.

Cornerback Perrish Cox ran a 4.45 with the wind and a 4.57 against the wind at Oklahoma State's pro day.

Jevan Snead declared for the draft this year because Todd McShay said he'd be a top 5 pick. Wow, because one talking head on ESPN said he'd be top 5 and everyone else was wrong.

Jason Pierre-Paul stood on his combine forty time and it was good so I don't blame him there was no reason to run. He did look good in position drills.

Carlton Mitchell, who I'd love to have in stripes, especially if it's in the 3rd boosted his draft stock even more with a 4.40 forty. At 6-3, 212 lbs that's blazing speed and he's a lot like Chris Henry but thicker and goes over the middle.

PostHeaderIcon Pro Day Results: Non BCS Conferences (by position)

Quarterbacks

Ryan Perriloux, Jacksonville State
Height: 6-2 Weight: 226
40 Time: 4.80
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump:

Max Hall, BYU
Height: 6-0 Weight: 204
40 Time: 4.77
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump:

John Skelton, Fordham
Height: 6-5 Weight: 241
40 Time:
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump:


Runningbacks

Joique Bell, Wayne State
Height: 5-11 Weight: 217
40 Time: 4.68
Bench Press: 16 reps
Vertical Jump: 36.5 in.


Ryan Matthews, Fresno State
Height: 6-0 Weight: 217
40 Time: 4.46
Bench Press: 19 reps
Vertical Jump: 36 in.

Lonyae Miller, Fresno State
Height: 6-0 Weight: 216
40 Time: 4.51
Bench Press: 26 reps
Vertical Jump: 36.5 in.


James Starks, Buffalo
Height: 6-2 Weight: 214
40 Time:
Bench Press: 15 reps
Vertical Jump: 36 in.


Wide Receivers

Golden Tate, Notre Dame
Height: 5-11 Weight: 202
40 Time: DNP due to excellent combine results
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump:


Freddie Barnes, Bowling Green
Height: 6-0 Weight: 215
40 Time: 4.67
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump: 30.5 in.


Armanti Edwards, Appalachian State, Converted QB
Height: 5-11 Weight: 192
40 Time: 4.41
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump: 34.5 in.


Roberto Wallace, San Diego State
Height: 6-4 Weight: 223
40 Time: 4.41
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump: 36.5

Seyi Ajirotutu, Fresno State
Height: 6-3 Weight: 204
40 Time: 4.58
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump:

Jameson Konz, Kent State
Height: 6-4 Weight: 234
40 Time: 4.41
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump: 46 in.

Joe Webb, UAB, Converted QB
Height: 6-3 Weight: 223
40 Time: 4.44
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump: 42.5 in.


Tight Ends

Clay Harbour, Missouri State
Height: 6-3 Weight: 252
40 Time: 4.58
Bench Press: 30 reps
Vertical Jump: 40 in.


Nathan Overbay, Eastern Washington
Height: 6-5 Weight: 259
40 Time: 4.74
Bench Press: 19 reps
Vertical Jump: 28.5 in.


Scott Sicko, New Hampshire
Height: 6-5 Weight: 251
40 Time: 4.53
Bench Press: 22 reps
Vertical Jump: 35 in.


Offensive Lineman

Sam Young, Notre Dame
Height: 6-8 Weight: 315
40 Time:
Bench Press: 29 reps
Vertical Jump:

Marshall Newhouse, Guard, TCU
Height: 6-4 Weight: 322
40 Time:
Bench Press: 25 reps
Vertical Jump:


Zane Beadles, Guard, Utah
Height: 6-4 Weight: 307
40 Time:
Bench Press: 30 reps
Vertical Jump:


Defensive Lineman

Austen Lane, End, Murray State
Height: 6-6 Weight: 274
40 Time: 4.89
Bench Press: 20 reps
Vertical Jump:


Danny Batten, End, South Dakota State
Height: 6-3 Weight: 246
40 Time: 4.71
Bench Press: 30 reps
Vertical Jump: 32.5 in.

D'Anthony Smith, Tackle, Louisiana Tech
Height: 6-2 Weight: 304
40 Time: 5.01
Bench Press: 30 reps
Vertical Jump: 35.5 in.


Brandon Lang, End, Troy
Height: 6-4 Weight: 266
40 Time: 4.85
Bench Press: 20 reps
Vertical Jump: 31.5 in.


Linval Joseph, Tackle, East Carolina
Height: 6-4 Weight: 319
40 Time: 4.93
Bench Press: DNP
Vertical Jump: 31.5 in.

Jay Ross, Tackle, East Carolina
Height: 6-3 Weight: 302
40 Time: 4.99
Bench Press: DNP
Vertical Jump: DNP



Linebackers

Dane Fletcher, OLB/DE, Montana State
Height: 6-1 Weight: 245
40 Time: 4.61
Bench Press: 29 reps
Vertical Jump: 36 in.

Jerry Hughes, DE/OLB, TCU
Height: 6-2 Weight: 254
40 Time:
Bench Press: 26 reps
Vertical Jump:

Daryl Washington, OLB, TCU
Height: 6-2 Weight: 229
40 Time: 4,54
Bench Press: 17 reps
Vertical Jump:


Koa Misi, DE/OLB, Utah
Height: 6-2 Weight: 246
40 Time:
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump: 38 in.

Cornerbacks

Kyle Wilson, Boise State
Height: 5-10 Weight: 185
40 Time: 4.43
Bench Press: 25 reps
Vertical Jump: 38 in.


AJ Jefferson, Fresno State
Height: 6-0 Weight: 186
40 Time: 4.43 at the combine
Bench Press: 7 reps
Vertical Jump: 44 in.


Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, IUP
Height: 6-1 Weight: 207
40 Time: 4.31
Bench Press: 21 reps
Vertical Jump:


Safeties

Kyle McCarthy, Notre Dame
Height: 6-0 Weight: 203
40 Time: 4.54
Bench Press: 24 reps
Vertical Jump:


Dominique Harris, Temple
Height: 6-3 Weight: 215
40 Time: 4.54
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump: 31 in.

Da'Mon Cromartie-Smith, UTEP
Height: 6-2 Weight: 206
40 Time: 4.50
Bench Press: 20 reps
Vertical Jump: 32 in.

Barry Church, Toledo
Height: 6-2 Weight: 220
40 Time: 4.64
Bench Press: 19 reps
Vertical Jump:

Robert Johnson, Utah
Height: 6-2 Weight: 203
40 Time: 4.58
Bench Press: 13 reps
Vertical Jump:

PostHeaderIcon Pro Day Results: Pac 10

Arizona

Rob Gronkowski, Tight End
Height: 6-6 Weight: 258
40 Time: 4.65
Bench Press: 23 reps
Vertical Jump: 33.5 in.


Earl Mitchell, Defensive Tackle
Height: 6-1 Weight: 294
40 Time:
Bench Press: 25 reps
Vertical Jump: 33.5 in.

Devin Ross, Cornerback
Height: 5-10 Weight: 183
40 Time: 4.63
Bench Press: 16 reps
Vertical Jump: 40 in.

Arizona State

Dexter Davis, Defensive End/Outside Linebacker
Height: 6-2 Weight: 244
40 Time:
Bench Press: 25 reps
Vertical Jump: 35 in.

Travis Goethel, Inside Linebacker
Height: 6-3 Weight: 238
40 Time: 4.58
Bench Press: 21 reps
Vertical Jump:

Shawn Lauvao, Guard
Height: 6-3 Weight: 304
40 Time: 5.25
Bench Press: 33 reps
Vertical Jump:

Chris McGaha, Wide Receiver
Height: 6-1 Weight: 200
40 Time:
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump: 40 in.

California

Tyson Alualu, Defensive Tackle
Height: 6-3 Weight: 294
40 Time:
Bench Press: 24 reps
Vertical Jump:

Nyan Boetang, Wide Receiver
Height: 6-1 Weight: 204
40 Time: 4.66
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump: 33.5 in.

Mike Tepper, Offensive Tackle
Height: 6-5 Weight: 320
40 Time: 5.25
Bench Press: 28 reps
Vertical Jump:

Verran Tucker, Wide Receiver
Height: 6-2 Weight: 202
40 Time: 4.65
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump: 36.5 in.

Oregon

LaGarrette Blount, Runningback
Height: 6-0 Weight: 238
40 Time: 4.53
Bench Press: 19 reps
Vertical Jump:

Ed Dickson, Tight End
Height: 6-4 Weight: 250
40 Time: 4.61
Bench Press: 25 reps
Vertical Jump: 34 in.


TJ Ward, Safety
Height: 5-10 Weight: 211
40 Time: 4.46
Bench Press: 19 reps
Vertical Jump:

Oregon State

Sean Canfield, Quarterback
Height: 6-4 Weight: 224
40 Time:
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump:

Keaston Kristick, Outside Linebacker
Height: 6-3 Weight: 232
40 Time: 4.74
Bench Press: 18 reps
Vertical Jump: 33 in.

Stanford

Jim Dray, Tight End
Height: 6-5 Weight: 251
40 Time: 4.82
Bench Press: 19 reps
Vertical Jump: 34 in.

Chris Marinelli, Offensive Tackle
Height: 6-7 Weight: 301
40 Time: 5.07
Bench Press: 16 reps
Vertical Jump:

UCLA

Kyle Bosworth, Outside Linebacker
Height: 6-1 Weight: 236
40 Time: 4.58
Bench Press: 25 reps
Vertical:

Ryan Moya, Tight End
Height: 6-3 Weight: 238
40 Time: 4.65
Bench Press:
Vertical:

USC

Charles Brown, Offensive Tackle
Height: 6-5 Weight: 303
40 Time: 5.25
Bench Press: 21 reps
Vertical:

Everson Griffen, Defensive End
Height: 6-3 Weight: 268
40 Time: 4.59
Bench Press: 32 reps
Vertical:

Stafon Johnson, Runningback
Height: 5-11 Weight: 214
40 Time: 4.62
Bench Press: 13 reps
Vertical:

Joe McKnight, Runningback
Height: 5-11 Weight: 200
40 Time: DNP
Bench Press: 18 reps
Vertical: 36.5 in


Washington

Donald Butler, Inside Linebacker
Height: 6-1 Weight: 235
40 Time: 4.61
Bench Press: 35 reps
Vertical Jump: 35.5 in.

Daniel Te'O Nesheim, Defensive End
Height: 6-4 Weight: 267
40 Time: 4.72
Bench Press: 29 reps
Vertical Jump: 37 in.

Washington State

Kenny Alfred, Center
Height: 6-2 Weight: 290
40 Time: 5.06
Bench Press: 21 reps
Vertical Jump:
Tuesday, March 30, 2010

PostHeaderIcon Pro Day Results: SEC

Alabama

Terrance Cody, Defensive Tackle
Height: 6-4 Weight: 349
40 Time: 5.62
Bench: 22 reps
Vertical Jump: couldn't do drill for fear of earthquake


Mike Johnson, Guard
Height: 6-6 Weight: 312
40 Time: 5.31
Bench:
Vertical Jump:


Rolando McClain, Inside Linebacker
Height: 6-3 Weight: 249
40 Time: 4.69
Bench: 24 reps
Vertical Jump: 35 in.

Colin Peek, Tight End
Height: 6-5 Weight: 252
40 Time: 4.93
Bench: 19 reps
Vertical Jump: 34.5 in.



Arkansas

Mitch Petrus, Guard
Height: 6-3 Weight: 307
40 Time: 5.25
Bench: 45 reps
Vertical Jump:


Malcolm Shepard, Defensive Tackle
Height: 6-2 Weight: 280
40 Time: 5.04
Bench: 24 reps
Vertical Jump: 30 in.

Auburn

Antonio Coleman, Defensive End/Outside Linebacker
Height: 6-1 Weight: 248
40 Time: 4.77
Bench: 18 reps
Vertical Jump: 33.5 in.

Walter McFadden, Cornerback
Height: 5-11 Weight: 181
40 Time: 4.40
Bench: 9 reps
Vertical Jump: 35.5 in.

Ben Tate, Runningback
Height: 5-11 Weight: 219
40 Time: 4.45
Bench: 26 reps
Vertical Jump: 40.5 in.


Florida

Riley Cooper, Wide Receiver
Height: 6-3 Weight: 219
40 Time:
Bench:
Vertical Jump:


Carlos Dunlap, Defensive End
Height: 6-6 Weight: 279
40 Time: 4.61
Bench: 22 reps
Vertical Jump:


Joe Haden, Cornerback
Height: 5-11 Weight: 189
40 Time: 4.43
Bench: 18 reps
Vertical Jump:


Aaron Hernandez, Tight End
Height: 6-3 Weight: 243
40 Time: 4.58
Bench: 30 reps
Vertical Jump: 33 in.


Maurkice Pouncey, Guard/Center
Height: 6-4 Weight: 306
40 Time:
Bench: 26 reps
Vertical Jump:


Brandon Spikes, Inside Linebacker
Height: 6-3 Weight: 253
40 Time: 5.03
Bench: 27 reps
Vertical Jump: 36.5

Tim Tebow, Quarterback
Height: 6-3 Weight: 236
40 Time:
Bench:
Vertical Jump:


Georgia

Rennie Curran, Outside Linebacker
Height: 5-11 Weight: 235
40 Time: 4.67
Bench: 25 reps
Vertical Jump:


Reshad Jones, Safety
Height: 6-1 Weight: 214
40 Time: 4.52
Bench: 24 reps
Vertical Jump: 39.5 in.


Jeff Owens, Defensive Tackle
Height: 6-1 Weight: 304
40 Time: 4.88
Bench: 44 reps
Vertical Jump:


Kade Wetson, Defensive Tackle
Height: 6-5 Weight: 320
40 Time: 4.97
Bench:
Vertical Jump:

Kentucky

Micah Johnson, Inside Linebacker
Height: 6-2 Weight: 256
40 Time: 4.84
Bench: 31 reps
Vertical Jump:

Trevard Lindley, Cornerback
Height: 5-11 Weight: 183
40 Time: 4.50
Bench: 9 reps
Vertical Jump: 38 in.


Sam Maxwell, Outside Linebacker
Height: 6-1 Weight: 244
40 Time: 4.98
Bench:
Vertical Jump: 31 in.


Corey Peters, Defensive Tackle
Height: 6-3 Weight: 301
40 Time: 4.90
Bench: 26 reps
Vertical Jump:

LSU

Rahim Alem, Defensive End
Height: 6-3 Weight: 257
40 Time:
Bench: 18 reps
Vertical Jump: 33 in.


Harry Coleman, Safety
Height: 6-2 Weight: 212
40 Time: 4.49
Bench: 13 reps
Vertical Jump: 33 in.

Chris Hawkins, Cornerback
Height: 6-0 Weight: 187
40 Time: 4.42
Bench: 16 reps
Vertical Jump: 36.5 in.

Brandon LaFell, Wide Receiver
Height: 6-3 Weight: 211
40 Time: 4.54
Bench:
Vertical Jump:


Chad Jones, Safety
Height: 6-2 Weight: 225
40 Time: 4.57
Bench: 9 reps
Vertical Jump:


Perry Riley, Outside Linebacker
Height: 6-1 Weight: 239
40 Time:
Bench: 17 reps
Vertical Jump:


Charles Scott, Runningback
Height: 5-11 Weight: 232
40 Time: 4.54
Bench: 17 reps
Vertical Jump: 31 in.

Al Woods, Defensive Tackle
Height: 6-4 Weight: 307
40 Time: 4.98
Bench: 23 reps
Vertical Jump: 37 in.

Mississippi State

Jamar Chaney, Inside Linebacker
Height: 6-1 Weight: 240
40 Time: 4.56
Bench: 26 reps
Vertical Jump: 39 in.

Anthony Dixon, Runningback
Height: 6-1 Weight: 233
40 Time: 4.61
Bench: 15 reps
Vertical Jump: 40 in.


Ole Miss

Greg Hardy, Defensive End
Height: 6-4 Weight: 277
40 Time: 4.79
Bench: 21 reps
Vertical Jump: 35 in.


Shay Hodge, Wide Receiver
Height: 6-2 Weight: 214
40 Time: 4.55
Bench:
Vertical Jump: 33 in.


John Jerry, Guard
Height: 6-5 Weight: 335
40 Time:
Bench: 31 reps
Vertical Jump:


Kendrick Lewis, Safety
Height: 6-0 Weight: 194
40 Time: 4.44
Bench: 20 reps
Vertical Jump: 37.5 in.

Dexter McCluster, Runningback/Wide Receiver
Height: 5-9 Weight: 172
40 Time: 4.44
Bench: 20 reps
Vertical Jump: 37.5 in.

Jevan Snead, Quarterback
Height: 6-3 Weight: 223
40 Time:
Bench:
Vertical Jump:

South Carolina


Tennessee

Jeff Cottam, Tight End
Height: 6-6 Weight: 262
40 Time: 4.78
Bench: 19 reps
Vertical Jump: 32 in.


Jonathon Crompton, Quarterback
Height: 6-3 Weight: 222
40 Time: 4.87
Bench:
Vertical Jump:

Vanderbilt

Myron Lewis, Cornerback/Safety
Height: 6-2 Weight: 203
40 Time:
Bench: 10 reps
Vertical Jump:


Thomas Welch, Offensive Tackle
Height: 6-7 Weight: 306
40 Time: 5.40
Bench: 29 reps
Vertical Jump:

PostHeaderIcon Pro Day Results: Big 12

Baylor

David Gettis, Wide Receiver
Height: 6-3 Weight: 216
40 Time: 4.39
Bench:
Vertical Jump:

Jordan Lake, Safety
Height: 6-1 Weight: 209
40 Time: 4.79
Bench: 14 reps
Vertical Jump: 30 in.

Joe Pawelek, Inside Linebacker
Height: 6-2 Weight: 237
40 Time: 4.75
Bench: 13 reps
Vertical Jump: 30.5 in.

Colorado

Ben Burney, Cornerback
Height: 5-11 Weight: 202
40 Time: 4.38
Bench: 16 reps
Vertical Jump: 39 in.

Riar Geer, Tight End
Height: 6-3 Weight: 259
40 Time:
Bench: 13 reps
Vertical Jump:


Iowa State


Kansas

Dezmon Briscoe, Wide Receiver
Height: 6-2 Weight: 208
40 Time: 4.51
Bench:
Vertical Jump: 34 in.


Kerry Meier, Wide Receiver
Height: 6-2 Weight: 215
40 Time: 4.51
Bench:
Vertical Jump:


Jake Sharp, Runningback
Height: 5-9 Weight: 194
40 Time: 4.43
Bench: 19 reps
Vertical Jump: 25 in.

Kansas State

Jeffrey Fitzgerald, Defensive End
Height: 6-4 Weight: 270
40 Time: 4.84
Bench: 21 reps
Vertical Jump: 35 in.

Joshua Moore, Cornerback
Height: 5-11 Weight: 188
40 Time: 4.50
Bench:
Vertical Jump:

Missouri

Sean Weatherspoon, Outside Linebacker
Height: 6-1 Weight: 239
40 Time: 4.52
Bench: 35 reps
Vertical Jump: 40 in.



Nebraska

Larry Asante, Safety
Height: 6-0 Weight: 212
40 Time: 4.66
Bench: 14 reps
Vertical Jump:


Phillip Dilliard, Inside Linebacker
Height: 6-0 Weight: 242
40 Time:
Bench: 18 reps
Vertical Jump:

Oklahoma

Sam Bradford, Quarterback
Height: 6-5 Weight: 236
40 Time:
Bench:
Vertical Jump:
*Completed 62 of 63 passes

Chris Brown, Runningback
Height: 5-10 Weight: 210
40 Time: 4.53
Bench: 19 reps
Vertical Jump: 36 in.

Keenan Clayton, Outside Linebacker
Height: 6-1 Weight: 229
40 Time: 4.57
Bench: 27 reps
Vertical Jump: 41.5 in

Brady Elridge, Tight End
Height: 6-5 Weight: 259
40 Time: 4.68
Bench: 20 reps
Vertical Jump:

Auston English, Defensive End
Height: 6-3 Weight: 252
40 Time: 4.77
Bench: 25 reps
Vertical Jump: 35 in.

Dominique Franks, Cornerback
Height: 5-11 Weight: 194
40 Time: 4.47
Bench: 10 reps
Vertical Jump:


DeMarcus Granger, Defensive Tackle
Height: 6-2 Weight: 321
40 Time:
Bench: 32 reps
Vertical Jump:

Jermaine Gresham, Tight End
Height: 6-5 Weight: 259
40 Time:
Bench: 20 reps
Vertical Jump: 35 in.


Brian Jackson, Cornerback
Height: 6-1 Weight: 199
40 Time: 4.60
Bench: 20 reps
Vertical Jump: 38 in.

Gerald McCoy, Defensive Tackle
Height: 6-4 Weight: 298
40 Time:
Bench: 23 reps
Vertical Jump:

Trent Williams, Offensive Tackle
Height: 6-5 Weight: 314
40 Time:
Bench: 23 reps
Vertical Jump:

Adron Tennell, Wide Receiver
Height: 6-4 Weight: 195
40 Time: 4.50
Bench:
Vertical Jump:

Oklahoma State

Lucien Antoine, Safety
Height: 6-0 Weight: 218
40 Time: 4.68
Bench: 28 reps
Vertical Jump:

Dez Bryant, Wide Receiver
Height: 6-3 Weight: 220
40 Time: 4.50
Bench:
Vertical Jump: 38.5 in.


Andrew Lewis, Guard/Center
Height: 6-5 Weight: 298
40 Time: 5.35
Bench: 22 reps
Vertical Jump:

Swanson Miller, Defensive Tackle
Height: 6-3 Weight: 300
40 Time: 5.20
Bench: 22 reps
Vertical Jump: 27 in.

Russell Okung, Offensive Tackle
Height: 6-5 Weight: 310
40 Time:
Bench: 38 reps
Vertical Jump:

Keith Tolston, Runningback
Height: 5-11 Weight: 205
40 Time: 4.60
Bench:
Vertical Jump:


Texas

Deon Beasley, Cornerback
Height: 5-10 Weight: 180
40 Time: 4.46
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump:

LaMarr Houston, Defensive Tackle
Height: 6-3 Weight: 300
40 Time: DNP stood on combine time
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump:


Sergio Kindle, Outside Linebacker
Height: 6-3 Weight: 249
40 Time: DNP stood on combine time
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump:


Rodrick Muckelroy, Outside Linebacker
Height: 6-1 Weight: 234
40 Time: 4.73
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump:


Jordan Shipley, Wide Receiver
Height: 5-11 Weight: 193
40 Time: 4.57
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump: 36.5 in.


Charlie Tanner, Guard
Height: 6-4 Weight: 305
40 Time: 5.12
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump:

Earl Thomas, Safety
Height: 5-10 Weight: 202
40 Time: 4.37
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump:


Adam Ulatoski, Offensive Tackle
Height: 6-6 Weight: 302
40 Time: 4.56
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump:

Texas A&M

Kevin Matthews, Center
Height: 6-3 Weight: 298
40 Time: 5.27
Bench: 32 reps
Vertical Jump:

Jamie McCoy, Tight End
Height: 6-2 Weight: 240
40 Time: 4.56
Bench: 23 reps
Vertical Jump: 35 in.

Jordan Pugh, Cornerback
Height: 5-10 Weight: 196
40 Time: 4.44
Bench: 14 reps
Vertical Jump: 40 in.

Texas Tech

Brandon Carter, Guard
Height: 6-6 Weight: 319
40 Time: 5.24
Bench: 24 reps
Vertical Jump:


Brandon Sharpe, Defensive End/Outside Linebacker
Height: 6-2 Weight: 254
40 Time: 4.71
Bench: 23 reps
Vertical Jump: 35 in.


Jamar Wall, Cornerback
Height: 5-10 Weight: 204
40 Time:
Bench: 15 reps
Vertical Jump: 40.5 in.

Marlon Winn, Offensive Tackle
Height: 6-5 Weight: 305
40 Time: 5.27
Bench: 19 reps
Vertical Jump:

PostHeaderIcon Pro Day Results: Big 10

Illinois

Arrelious Benn, Wide Receiver
Height: 6-1 Weight: 218
40 Time: 4.40
Bench:
Vertical: 37.5 in.


Mike Hoomanawanui, Tight End
Height: 6-4 Weight: 263
40 Time: 4.77
Bench: 25 reps
Vertical: 32.5 in.


Juice Williams, Quarterback
Height: 6-1 Weight: 226
40 Time: 4.91
Bench:
Vertical:

Indiana

Jammie Kerlew, Defensive End
Height: 6-1 Weight: 261
40 Time: 5.03
Bench: 29 reps
Vertical: 34 in.

Greg Middleton, Defensive End
Height: 6-3 Weight: 261
40 Time: 5.08
Bench:
Vertical: 38 in.

Will Patterson, Outside Linebacker
Height: 6-1 Weight: 235
40 Time: 4.63
Bench: 32 reps
Vertical: 34.5 in.

Nick Polk, Safety
Height: 5-11 Weight: 218
40 Time: 4.63
Bench: 15 reps
Vertical: 39 in.

Roger Saffold, Offensive Tackle
Height: 6-5 Weight: 313
40 Time: 5.22
Bench: 27 reps
Vertical:




Iowa

Pat Angerer, Middle Linebacker
Height: 6-0 Weight: 234
40 Time: 4.64
Bench: 26 reps
Vertical: 39 in.

Bryan Bulaga, Offensive Tackle
Height: 6-5 Weight: 316
40 Time:
Bench: 26 reps
Vertical:

Kyle Calloway, Offensive Tackle
Height: 6-6 Weight: 323
40 Time: 5.53
Bench: 24 reps
Vertical:

AJ Edds, Outside Linebacker
Height: 6-3 Weight: 247
40 Time: 4.67
Bench: 16 reps
Vertical: 36.5 in.


Tony Moeaki, Tight End
Height: 6-3 Weight: 245
40 Time: 4.68
Bench: 18 reps
Vertical: 36.5 in.


Amari Spievey, Cornerback
Height: 5-11 Weight: 195
40 Time: 4.53
Bench: 6 reps
Vertical: 34.5 in.



Michigan

Stevie Brown, Safety
Height: 5-11 Weight: 212
40 Time: 4.51
Bench: 23 reps
Vertical: 34.5 in.

Donovan Warren, Cornerback
Height: 6-0 Weight: 193
40 Time: 4.62
Bench: 12 reps
Vertical:



Michigan State

Blair White
Height: 6-2 Weight: 205
40 Time: 4.42
Bench:
Vertical: 35.5 in.



Minnesota

Lee Campbell, Inside Linebacker
Height: 6-2 Weight: 248
40 Time: 4.84
Bench: 17 reps
Vertical:

Simoni Lawrence, Outside Linebacker
Height: 6-0 Weight: 229
40 Time: 4.55
Bench: 21 reps
Vertical: 40 in.

Marcus Sherels, Cornerback
Height: 5-9 Weight: 175
40 Time: 4.58
Bench: 8 reps
Vertical: 33.5 in.

Traye Simmons, Cornerback
Height: 5-9 Weight: 180
40 Time: 4.58
Bench: 8 reps
Vertical: 33.5 in.

Nathan Triplett, Outside Linebacker
Height: 6-3 Weight: 250
40 Time: 4.65
Bench: 20 reps
Vertical:

Northwestern

Mike Kafka, Quarterback
Height: 6-3 Weight: 222
40 Time: 4.81
Bench: 32.5 in.

Sherrick McManis, Cornerback
Height: 5-11 Weight: 192
40 Time: DNP
Bench: 15 reps
Vertical: DNP

Corey Wooten, Defensive End
Height: 6-6 Weight: 272
40 Time: 4.92
Bench: DNP
Vertical: 32 in.

Ohio State

Kurt Coleman, Safety
Height: 5-10 Weight: 191
40 Time: 4.52
Bench: 19 reps
Vertical: 34.5 in.


Jim Cordle, Center
Height: 6-4 Weight: 305
40 Time: 5.36
Bench: 23 reps
Vertical:

Thaddeus Gibson, Defensive End/Outside Linebacker
Height: 6-2 Weight: 243
40 Time: 4.58
Bench: 32 reps
Vertical:

Robert Rose, Defensive Tackle
Height: 6-4 Weight: 294
40 Time: 4.74
Bench: 24 reps
Vertical: 27.5 in.

Anderson Russell, Safety
Height: 6-1 Weight: 202
40 Time: 4.45
Bench: 18 reps
Vertical: 37 in.

Ray Small, Wide Receiver
Height: 5-10 Weight: 182
40 Time: 4.42
Bench:
Vertical: 31 in.

Lawrence Wilson, Defensive End
Height: 6-4 Weight: 272
40 Time: 4.84
Bench: 26 reps
Vertical: 38 in.


Doug Worthington, Defensive End/Tackle
Height: 6-5 Weight: 290
40 Time: 4.99
Bench: 19 reps
Vertical: 35.5 in.

Penn State

Navarro Bowman, Outside Linebacker
Height: 6-0 Weight: 242
40 Time: 4.61
Bench: 26 reps
Vertical:


Daryl Clark, Quarterback
Height: 6-2 Weight: 235
40 Time: 4.61
Bench:
Vertical:

Dennis Landolt, Offensive Tackle
Height: 6-4 Weight: 310
40 Time: 5.00
Bench:
Vertical:

Sean Lee, Inside Linebacker
Height: 6-2 Weight: 236
40 Time: 4.60
Bench: 24 reps
Vertical:

Andrew Quarless, Tight End
Height: 6-4 Weight: 254
40 Time: 4.59
Bench: 23 reps
Vertical:


Mickey Shuler, Tight End
Height: 6-4 Weight: 251
40 Time: 4.69
Bench: 28 reps
Vertical:

AJ Wallace, Cornerback
Height: 6-1 Weight: 195
40 Time: 4.45
Bench: 14 reps
Vertical:

Purdue

David Pender, Cornerback
Height: Weight:
40 Time:
Bench: 12 reps
Vertical: 39 in.

Wisconsin

Garrett Graham, Tight End
Height: 6-3 Weight: 246
40 Time: 4.73
Bench: 20 reps
Vertical: 34 in.


Chris Maragos, Safety
Height: 5-11 Weight: 200
40 Time: 4.47
Bench: 15 reps
Vertical: 36 in.

PostHeaderIcon Pro Day Results: Big East

Cincinnati

Alex Daniels, Defensive End
Height: 6-2 Weight: 265
40 Time: 4.55
Bench: 31 reps
Vertical: 36.5 in.


Mardy Gilyard, Wide Receiver
Height: 6-0 Weight: 187
40 Time: 4.47
Bench:
Vertical: 39 in.


Ricardo Matthews, Defensive Tackle
Height: 6-2 Weight: 290
40 Time: 4.80
Bench: 26 reps
Vertical: 31.5 in.

Aaron Webster, Safety
Height: 6-1 Weight: 207
40 Time: 4.48
Bench: 21 reps
Vertical: 33.5 in.


Connecticut


Louisville


Pittsburgh

Nate Byham, Tight End
Height: 6-4 Weight: 264
40 Time: 4.83
Bench:
Vertical:


Dorin Dickerson, Tight End
Height: 6-1 Weight: 226
40 Time: DNP due to his excellent combine results, i don't blame him!
Bench:
Vertical:


Bill Stull, Quarterback
Height: 6-2 Weight: 211
40 Time:
Bench:
Vertical:


Rutgers

Ryan D'Imperio, Inside Linebacker
Height: 6-1 Weight: 241
40 Time: 4.68
Bench: 21 reps
Vertical: 33.5 in.

Kevin Haslem, Offensive Tackle
Height: 6-5 Weight: 304
40 Time: 5.65
Bench: 24 reps
Vertical:

George Johnson, Defensive End
Height: 6-4 Weight: 268
40 Time: 4.79
Bench: 29 reps
Vertical: 31 in.



South Florida

Nate Allen, Safety
Height: 6-0 Weight: 205
40 Time:DNP but did run a 4.22 short shuttle and 6.46 3 cone
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump: 34.5 in.


Carlton Mitchell, Wide Receiver
Height: 6-3 Weight: 212
40 Time: 4.40 and a short shuttle of 4.39
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump:


Jerome Murphy, Cornerback
Height: 6-0 Weight: 195
40 Time: 4.49
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump:


Jason Pierre-Paul, Defensive End
Height: 6-4 Weight: 266
40 Time:
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump: 31.5 in.


George Selvie,Defensive End
Height: Weight: 253
40 Time: 4.88
Bench Press:
Vertical Jump:


Syracuse

Greg Paulas, Quarterback
Height: 6-2 Weight: 210
40 Time: 4.89
Bench:
Vertical:



West Virginia

Arlic Arnett, Wide Receiver
Height: 6-2 Weight: 191
40 Time: 4.53
Bench:
Vertical: 40 in.

Jarett Brown, Quarterback
Height: 6-3 Weight: 224
40 Time: DNP due to good combine result
Bench:
Vertical: 36.5 in.

Selvish Capers, Offensive Tackle
Height: 6-5 Weight: 306
40 Time: 5.08
Bench: 22 reps
Vertical:

PostHeaderIcon Dez Bryant Pro Day

So the word is Dez Bryant forgot his cleats today and was slipping. Hence the slower than 4.32 forty that he supposedly ran in training for today. I'm not buying that he ran a 4.32 at all and I wouldn't be suprised if the forgot the cleats excuse was staged by his agent. I think Eugene Parker knows he can't run a 4.32 but knew when Dez ran a 4.45-4.55 he could try to pass it off as blaming it on the cleats.

Now the argument against that is that he already has work ethic concerns and forgetting your cleats is not gonna do anything to help that. Also it just plain makes him look like an idiot. But Parker knows someone is going to take him based on that top 5 talent he posseses and if people think he can run a 4.32 odds are he's gonna go top 10 regardless of red flags.

This may end up backfiring on them if in fact they really did plan this entire thing of forgetting his cleats. Or maybe I'm wrong and he really did forget his cleats. In that case wow, he's gotta be one of the dumbest people ever. What did he think he was doing today? Other than Bradford he has had the most hype over his workout. I just can't believe someone in the Bryant camp didn't make sure he had his cleats and everything else he needed. These players have a team of people that work for him, and not one of them did a check to make sure he had everything. If this is the case whoever is working for him should be fired.

Anyway bottom line out of atleast 3 attempts he failed to run under a 4.50. Forty times aren't as important for WR's as everyone thinks. I'd much rather have him run a good 20 yard shuttle and 3 cone drill as those show agility not just straight line speed. But he failed to finish either of those drills. How that's possible I don't know as neither drill lasts longer than 7 seconds. Any team that takes him is assuming a big risk and better hire a full time babysitter for him.

PostHeaderIcon Pro Day Results: ACC

Boston College

Clemson

Thomas Austin, Guard
Height: 6-3 Weight: 306
40 Time: 5.36
Bench: 33 reps
Vertical:

CJ Spiller
Height: 5-11 Weight: 196
40 Time: DNP
Bench: 18 reps
Vertical: 36 in.




Duke




Florida State

Patrick Robinson, Cornerback
Height: 5-11 Weight: 190
40 Time: 4.38
Bench: 15 reps
Vertical: 39 in.


Dekoda Watson, Outside Linebacker
Height: 6-1 Weight: 226
40 Time: 4.40
Bench: 24 reps
Vertical: 40 in.



Georgia Tech

Morgan Burnett, Defensive End
Height: 6-1 Weight: 209
40 Time: 4.42
Bench: 16 reps
Vertical: 39.5 in.


Jonathon Dwyer, Runningback
Height: 5-11 Weight: 229
40 Time: 4.52
Bench: 15 reps
Vertical:

Cord Howard, Guard
Height: 6-4 Weight: 308
40 Time: 5.12
Bench: 25 reps
Vertical:


Maryland

Chris Turner, Quarterback
Height: 6-4 Weight: 220
40 Time: 5.16
Bench:
Vertical:


Miami

Dedrick Epps, Tight End
Height: 6-4 Weight: 246
40 Time: 4.70
Bench: 19 reps
Vertical: 33 in.

Jason Fox, Offensive Tackle
Height: 6-7 Weight: 305
40 Time: 5.45
Bench: 25 reps
Vertical:

Jimmy Graham, Tight End
Height: Weight:
40 Time:
Bench: 15 reps
Vertical: 38 in.

Javarris James, Runningback
Height: 6-0 Weight: 215
40 Time: 4.63
Bench: 21 reps
Vertical: 36 in.

Darryl Sharpton
Height: 6-0 Weight: 230
40 Time: 4.74
Bench: 24 reps
Vertical: 31 in.


North Carolina

NC State

Toney Baker, Runningback
Height: 5-10 Weight: 235
40 Time: 4.53
Bench:
Vertical:


Virginia

Virginia Tech

Kam Chancellor, Safety
Height: 6-3 Weight: 231
40 Time: 4.59
Bench: 22 reps
Vertical: 31.5 in.


Sergio Render, Offensive Guard
Height: 6-3 Weight: 311
40 Time: 5.40
Bench: 28 reps
Vertical:

Stephen Virgil, Cornerback
Height: 5-11 Weight: 189
40 Time: 4.69
Bench: 12 reps
Vertical: 34 in.

Jason Worilds, Outside Linebacker
Height: 6-1 Weight: 254
40 Time: 4.47
Bench: 24 reps
Vertical: 38 in.

Wake Forest

Brandon Ghee, Cornerback
Height: 6-0 Weight: 191
40 Time: DNP
Bench: 15 reps
Vertical:


Boo Robinson, Defensive Tackle
Height: 6-1 Weight: 295
40 Time: 5.0
Bench: 33 reps
Vertical: 27.5 in.

PostHeaderIcon Pro Day Results (by conference)

PostHeaderIcon Marvin Lewis at South Florida Pro Day

Joe Reedy said Marvin was in house at USF's pro day. There could be a number of players there the Bengals are scouting. Jason Pierre-Paul, Nate Allen, Jerome Murphy, or Carlton Mitchell. All 4 of those are good players and there's a chance the Bengals could land more than one of them in April. When I get the numbers I'll post them

PostHeaderIcon Dez Bryant Pro Day

Here's an update on the Dez Bryant pro day extravaganza. Adam Shefter twittered that he got a text saying Bryant ran an unofficial 4.57 forty. That's a big descrepancy from the reported 4.32 forty during training. I do think that 4.57 is slower than Bryant plays in games and he may be out of shape or just had a bad day. I'd think his average forty time is probably in the mid 4.5's.

Update: appearantly Bryant averaged a 4.55 in his 2 attempts at the 40. It's on rotoworld that he ran a 4.50 against the wind and a 4.60 with the wind. No that's not a mistake! I don't know how that's possible and now I don't put much stock in these reports. Also he had a 38.5 inch vertical jump according to this report. I'll update when something more official comes in.

Update: this from nfl.com and I believe this one to be true. Bryant ran a 4.50 and a 4.68 on his first two attempts and due to the huge discrepency in times ran a 4.52, I think Bryant is capable of running in the mid 4.5's but these 4.50 and 4.52 times are closer to his speed than the reported 4.32 during his preperations. Bryant isn't known for elite speed to begin with so I don't think these times are gonna do much damage to his stock if any.

PostHeaderIcon Player Spotlight: Carlton Mitchell

Carlton Mitchell is a 3rd round prospect, but has been climbing up draft boards and I wouldn't be suprised if by April 22nd some teams have him as a 2nd rounder. Mitchell had a good showing at the NFL Combine last month turning in a 40 time of 4.49, 16 reps of 225 lbs on the bench, and over a 10 foot broad jump, all among the tops of his position. Mitchell is one of the bigger WR's in this draft at 6-3, 215 lbs. Of receivers that size he ran faster than anyone.

Mitchell is a WR that is willing to go over the middle, but has the speed to go vertical up the sidelines. He has a good vertical jump and is very good at going up and getting the ball in traffic. He has good ability to get seperation coming out of his breaks. He's a good blocker he has strong hands and long arms and is an asset outside in the running game. Mitchell has good ball skills, he can catch the short pass and make defenders miss turning short passes into big gains.

He may be a bit of a project as he's raw in talent, but I don't think it's anywhere on the level of Jerome Simpson and Bengal fans shouldn't let the Simpson pick deter you from Mitchell. His route running needs work and his hands are sometimes inconsistent.

Mitchell has a ton of upside and could end up being a steal in the 3rd or 4th round. Very few WR's in this draft have the athletic skill set that Carlton Mitchell has. Bengals fans I think he could be a TJ replacement with speed. He has the willingness and size to go over the middle. He could be the Bengals 3rd down move the chains WR and a good red zone target ala TJ Houshmandzadeh. Although projected as a 3rd rounder I could see him becoming one of the top 3 or 4 WR's in this draft class.

PostHeaderIcon Player Spotlight: LaMarr Houston

LaMarr Houston could be a 1st Round prospect in the draft almost any year other than 2010. This year he's ranked anywhere from the 10th to the 15th player, AT HIS POSITION! That's how loaded Defensive Tackle is in this draft. As of March 30th I have him mocked to the Bengals in the 2nd Round and some mocks have him falling to the 3rd. If you've watched any game tape on this guy then you know why I said he could be a 1st Round prospect in most other years. The guy is a disruptive force who gets in the backfield even against the elite teams. He can move sideline to sideline in ball pursuit like a linebacker does. Plus with his being a former Defensive End he provides versatility which adds to his value.

As a Defensive Tackle he is an excellent pass rusher who has a variety of moves that enable him to get to the Quarterback. Houston flys off the line with a very quick first step. Against the run he does a good job of driving his blocker into the backfield and redirecting the RB. He can make a tackle while being blocked. In the National Championship game Alabama schemed specifically against him and in the NFL will command double teams. He has a thick powerful lower body and uses his legs to drive Offensive Lineman back into the backfield. Is very good at getting low and getting leverage against his opponent. His biggest asset though could be that he can play both end and tackle in a 4-3 or end in a 3-4. That kind of versatility will make NFL coaches and GM's raise his stock on their draft boards.

Houston does have some negatives. He doesn't have very long arms and sometimes allows O lineman to get their hands on him. He lined up in a 4 point stance at Texas, I doubt NFL coaches will allow that which means he'll have to work on that this summer. He sometimes is inconsistent in his effort off the line. Occasionally has some problems with double teams turning his back to the double team that will need to be worked on. Not often but occasionally has trouble shedding blocks.

Houston's positives far outweigh his negatives. He would be an upgrade over Tank and Sims in my opinion and give the Bengals that much needed depth at DT, especially in the AFC North. He brings to the table what the Bengals have been missing and that's someone who can get pressure up the middle and collapse the pocket. If somehow he slips to the 3rd he'd be a steal and though unlikely it could happen due to the fact there is so many good players at DT. With this in mind teams may opt to wait on taking one thinking a good one can be had later. If this happens some DT's could slide from the 2nd to the 3rd and 4th rounds.

PostHeaderIcon Dez Bryant Pro Day

Dez Bryant's pro day is today March 30th. Rotoworld reported that while training he ran a 4.32 forty yard dash. If he runs anywhere near that today I wouldn't think there would be any chance he falls to the Bengals at 21. Adam Shefter is the one who reported this but I want to see him do it today, he isn't exactly known for his elite speed and that time is elite. This could all be coming from his agent to get some buzz going about his client. When the reports come in I'll have an update.

PostHeaderIcon Combine Top Performers: Safeties

40 Yard Dash

1. Mays, Taylor 4.43
2. Berry, Eric 4.47
3. Wright, Major 4.48


Bench Press: reps of 225 lbs.

1. Antoine, Lucien 28
2. Jones, Reshad 24
2. McCarthy, Kyle 24
2. Mays, Taylor 24
5. Chancellor, Kam 22
6. Rolle, Myron 21
6. Thomas, Earl 21
8. Berry, Eric 19
8. Church, Barry 19
10.Ward, T.J. 19
10.Coleman, Kurt 19


Vertical Jump (inches)

1. Berry, Eric 43.0
2. Mays, Taylor 41.0
3. Jones, Reshad 39.5
3. Stuckey, Darrell 39.5


Broad Jump (feet and inches)

1. Berry, Eric 10'10"
2. Mays, Taylor 10'5"


3 Cone Drill

1. Church, Barry 6.65
2. McCarthy, Kyle 6.74


20 Yard Shuttle

1. Rogan, Dennis 4.10
2. McCarthy, Kyle 4.13


60 Yard Shuttle

McCarthy, Kyle 11.13
Church, Barry 11.18
Monday, March 29, 2010

PostHeaderIcon Combine Top Performers: Cornerbacks

40 Yard Dash

1. Ghee, Brandon 4.45
2. Cook, Chris 4.46
3. Owusu-Ansah, Akwasi 4.47
3. Pender, David 4.47
5. Jackson, Kareem 4.48
5. McCourty, Devin 4.48
5. Thomas, Kevin 4.48


Bench Press: reps of 225 lbs.

1. Wilson, Kyle 25
2. Jackson, Brian 20
3. Thomas, Kevin 19


Vertical Jump (inches)

1. Jefferson, A.J. 44.0
2. Ross, Devin 40.0
3. Butler, Crezdon 39.5
4. Pender, David 39.0
4. Robinson, Patrick 39.0
6. Lindley, Trevard 38.5


Broad Jump (feet and inches)

1. Cook, Chris 11'0"
2. Ghee, Brandon 10'7"
2. Murphy, Jerome 10'7"
4. Jefferson, A.J. 10'6"
4. Thomas, Kevin 10'6"
4. McCourty, Devin 10'6"
4. Lewis, Myron 10'6"
8. Haden, Joe 10'5"


3 Cone Drill

1. Green, Marshay 6.66
2. McCourty, Devin 6.70
2. Verner, Vern 6.70
4. Jefferson, A.J. 6.72
5. Thompson, Syd'quan 6.73
6. Moore, Joshua 6.74
7. Ghee, Brandon 6.75
8. Jackson, Brian 6.76


20 Yard Shuttle

1. Jefferson, A.J. 4.00
2. Murphy, Jerome 4.05
3. Chancellor, Chris 4.07
3. Ghee, Brandon 4.07
3. Moore, Joshua 4.07
3. McCourty, Devin 4.07
7. Green, Marshay 4.11
8. Verner, Vern 4.12


60 Yard Shuttle

1. Jefferson, A.J. 11.04
2. Verner, Vern 11.06
3. Haden, Joe 11.12
4. Lindley, Trevard 11.17
5. Ghee, Brandon 11.21
6. Jackson, Brian 11.23
6. Owusu-Ansah, Akwasi 11.23
8. Thomas, Kevin 11.25

PostHeaderIcon Combine Top Performers: Linebackers

40 Yard Dash

1. Chaney, Jamar 4.54
2. Watson, Dekoda 4.56
3. Conner, Kavell 4.63
4. Grimm, Cody 4.64
5. Coleman, Harry 4.65
6. Clayton, Keenan 4.66
6. Washington, Daryl 4.66
8. Lawrence, Simoni 4.68
8. Weatherspoon, Sean 4.68
10.Edds, A.J. 4.71


Bench Press: reps of 225 lbs.

1. Butler, Donald 35
2. Weatherspoon, Sean 34
3. Johnson, Micah 31
4. McLaughlin, Mike 29
5. Clayton, Keenan 27
5. Wilson, Kion 27
5. Lee, Boris 27
8. Angerer, Pat 26
8. Chaney, Jamar 26
8. Bowman, Navorro 26


Vertical Jump (inches)

1. Clayton, Keenan 41.5
2. Lawrence, Simoni 40.0
2. Watson, Dekoda 40.0
2. Weatherspoon, Sean 40.0
5. Beauchamp, Jason 39.5
6. Chaney, Jamar 39.0
7. McLaughlin, Mike 38.5
8. Lee, Sean 37.5
9. Norwood, Eric 36.5
9. Wilson, Kion 36.5


3 Cone Drill

1. Grimm, Cody 6.58
2. Bosworth, Kyle 6.67
3. McLaughlin, Mike 6.85
4. Hull, Josh 6.86
5. Chaney, Jamar 6.90
6. Bowman, Navorro 6.91
7. Goethel, Travis 6.93
8. Kristick, Keaton 6.96
9. Riley, Perry 6.97
9. Spikes, Brandon 6.97


20 Yard Shuttle

1. Hull, Josh 4.07
2. Bosworth, Kyle 4.11
2. McLaughlin, Mike 4.11
2. Watson, Dekoda 4.11
5. Kristick, Keaton 4.21
6. Norwood, Eric 4.23
7. Riley, Perry 4.25
8. Edds, A.J. 4.28
9. Angerer, Pat 4.29
9. Chaney, Jamar 4.29


60 Yard Shuttle

1. Hull, Josh 11.31
2. Kristick, Keaton 11.33
3. Watson, Dekoda 11.35
4. Chaney, Jamar 11.46
5. Bowman, Navorro 11.52
6. Weatherspoon, Sean 11.59
7. Bosworth, Kyle 11.65
8. Coleman, Harry 11.67

PostHeaderIcon Combine Top Performers: Defensive Lineman

40 Yard Dash

1. Davis, Dexter 4.64
2. Griffen, Everson 4.66
2. Moats, Arthur 4.66
4. Hughes, Jerry 4.69
5. Sapp, Ricky 4.70
6. Dunlap, Carlos 4.71
6. Kindle, Sergio 4.71
8. Graham, Brandon 4.72
8. Worilds, Jason 4.72
10.Alem, Rahim 4.75



Bench Press: reps of 225 lbs.

1. Owens, Jeff 44
2. Joseph, Linval 39
3. Atkins, Geno 34
3. Troup, Torell 34
3. Price, Brian 34
6. Gibson, Thaddeus 32
6. Wilson, C.J. 32
6. Suh, Ndamukong 32
6. Griffen, Everson 32
10.Graham, Brandon 31
10.Thomas, Cam 31
10.Neal, Mike 31


Vertical Jump (inches)

1. Middleton, Greg 38.0
1. Misi, Koa 38.0
1. Worilds, Jason 38.0
1. Young, Willie 38.0
5. Te'o-Nesheim, Daniel 37.0
5. Woods, Al 37.0
7. Kindle, Sergio 36.5
7. McClellan, Albert 36.5
7. Moats, Arthur 36.5
7. Witten, Lindsey 36.5


3 Cone Drill

1. Gibson, Thaddeus 6.84
2. Te'o-Nesheim, Daniel 6.91
3. Worilds, Jason 6.95
4. Hughes, Jerry 6.99
5. Galette, Junior 7.04
6. Misi, Koa 7.07
7. Davis, Dexter 7.08
7. Tracy, Adrian 7.08
9. Morgan, Derrick 7.12
10.Alualu, Tyson 7.15


20 Yard Shuttle

1. Hughes, Jerry 4.15
2. Galette, Junior 4.16
3. Te'o-Nesheim, Daniel 4.18
4. McClellan, Albert 4.21
5. Gibson, Thaddeus 4.27
5. Misi, Koa 4.27
7. Worilds, Jason 4.29
8. Davis, Dexter 4.30
9. Tracy, Adrian 4.34
10.Moats, Arthur 4.37

PostHeaderIcon Combine Top Performers: Offensive Lineman

40 Yard Dash

1. Campbell, Bruce 4.85
2. Williams, Trent 4.88
3. Newhouse, Marshall 5.00
4. Veldheer, Jared 5.09
5. Smith, Shelley 5.11
6. Capers, Selvish 5.14
7. Jerry, John 5.15
8. Brooks, Dorian 5.16
8. Tennant, Matt 5.16
8. Degeare, Chris 5.16


Bench Press: reps of 225 lbs.

1. Petrus, Mitch 45
2. Okung, Russell 38
3. Hawley, Joe 35
3. Olsen, Eric 35
5. Campbell, Bruce 34
6. Byers, Jeff 33
6. Washington, Tony 33
6. Lauvao, Shawn 33
9. Veldheer, Jared 32
10.Ducasse, Vlad 29
10.Wang, Ed 29
10.Welch, Thomas 29
10.Young, Sam 29


Vertical Jump (inches)

1. Williams, Trent 34.5
2. Smith, Shelley 34.0
3. Veldheer, Jared 33.5
4. Davis, Anthony 33.0
5. Degeare, Chris 32.5
6. Campbell, Bruce 32.0
7. Brown, Charles 31.5
8. Capers, Selvish 30.5
9. Olsen, Eric 29.5
9. Washington, Tony 29.5
9. Young, Sam 29.5
9. Saffold, Rodger 29.5
13.Welch, Thomas 29.0


Broad Jump (feet and inches)

1. Washington, Tony 9'6"
2. Saffold, Rodger 9'5"
2. Williams, Trent 9'5"
4. Smith, Shelley 9'4"
5. Veldheer, Jared 9'1"
6. Capers, Selvish 8'10"
7. Welch, Thomas 8'9"
7. Hawley, Joe 8'9"
9. Young, Sam 8'8"
10.Degeare, Chris 8'7"


3 Cone Drill

1. Newhouse, Marshall 7.40
1. Veldheer, Jared 7.40
3. Saffold, Rodger 7.42
4. Hawley, Joe 7.50
4. Olsen, Eric 7.50
6. Washington, Tony 7.52
7. Lauvao, Shawn 7.56
8. Campbell, Bruce 7.58
9. Tennant, Matt 7.60
9. Walton, J.D. 7.60


20 Yard Shuttle

1. Lauvao, Shawn 4.51
1. Veldheer, Jared 4.51
3. Newhouse, Marshall 4.60
4. Tennant, Matt 4.62
5. Williams, Trent 4.63
6. Brooks, Dorian 4.66
6. Larsen, Ted 4.66
8. Saffold, Rodger 4.67
9. Capers, Selvish 4.68
10.Campbell, Bruce 4.69
10.Walton, J.D. 4.69
10.Jerry, John 4.69


60 Yard Shuttle

PostHeaderIcon Combine Top Performers: Tight Ends

40 Yard Dash

1. Dickerson, Dorin 4.40
2. Graham, Jimmy 4.56
3. Dickson, Ed 4.67
4. Harbor, Clay 4.69
4. Moeaki, Tony 4.69
4. Quarless, Andrew 4.69


Bench Press: reps of 225 lbs.

1. Harbor, Clay 30
2. Pitta, Dennis 27
3. Hoomanawanui, Michael 25
4. Dickerson, Dorin 24
5. Dickson, Ed 23
5. Gronkowski, Rob 23
5. Quarless, Andrew 23
8. Graham, Garrett 20
8. Gresham, Jermaine 20


Vertical Jump (inches)

1. Dickerson, Dorin 43.5
2. Harbor, Clay 40.0
3. Graham, Jimmy 38.5
3. McCoy, Anthony 35.5
5. Gresham, Jermaine 35.0
6. Graham, Garrett 34.5
7. Dickson, Ed 34.0
7. Moeaki, Tony 34.0
7. Pitta, Dennis 34.0


Broad Jump (feet and inches)

1. Dickerson, Dorin 10'5"
2. Graham, Jimmy 10'0"
2. Harbor, Clay 10'0"
4. Dickson, Ed 9'7"
5. Gresham, Jermaine 9'5"
5. McCoy, Anthony 9'5"
5. Moeaki, Tony 9'5"
5. Pitta, Dennis 9'5"


3 Cone Drill


1. Pitta, Dennis 6.72
2. Graham, Jimmy 6.90
3. Dickerson, Dorin 6.96
4. McCoy, Anthony 6.99
5. Gresham, Jermaine 7.07


20 Yard Shuttle


1. Pitta, Dennis 4.17
2. Geer, Riar 4.29
3. Dickerson, Dorin 4.30
4. Graham, Garrett 4.35
5. Harbor, Clay 4.37

PostHeaderIcon Combine Top Performers: Wide Receivers

40 Yard Dash

1. Ford, Jacoby 4.28
2. Price, Taylor 4.41
2. Sanders, Emmanuel 4.41
4. Tate, Golden 4.42
5. Banks, Brandon 4.43
5. Williams, Kyle 4.43
7. Easley, Marcus 4.46
7. Roberts, Andre 4.46
7. Long, Scott 4.46
10.Mitchell, Carlton 4.49


Bench Press: reps of 225 lbs.


1. Benn, Arrelious 20
1. Jones, Donald 20
1. Long, Scott 20
4. McGaha, Chris 19
4. Williams, Damian 19
6. White, Blair 18
7. Tate, Golden 17
8. Easley, Marcus 16
8. Mitchell, Carlton 16
8. Parker, Preston 16
8. Price, Taylor 16
8. Shipley, Jordan 16


Vertical Jump (inches)


1. Long, Scott 41.5
2. Jones, Donald 41.0
3. Arnett, Alric 40.0
3. McGaha, Chris 40.0
5. Sanders, Emmanuel 39.5
6. Gilyard, Mardy 39.0
7. Williams, Damian 38.0
8. Benn, Arrelious 37.0
8. Price, Taylor 37.0
8. Reed, David 37.0


Broad Jump (feet and inches)


1. Sanders, Emmanuel 10'6"
2. Williams, Stephen 10'5"
3. Gettis, David 10'4"
4. Long, Scott 10'3"
4. Easley, Marcus 10'3"
6. Arnett, Alric 10'2"
6. McGaha, Chris 10'2"
6. Mitchell, Carlton 10'2"
9. Perry, Jared 10'1"
10.Roberts, Andre 10'0"
10.Tate, Golden 10'0"



3 Cone Drill

1. Long, Scott 6.45
2. Sanders, Emmanuel 6.60
3. White, Blair 6.69
4. Williams, Jeremy 6.73
5. Perry, Jared 6.75
6. Bell, Chris 6.76
7. Roberts, Andre 6.77
8. Williams, Damian 6.79
9. LaFell, Brandon 6.81
9. Williams, Stephen 6.81


20 Yard Shuttle


1. White, Blair 4.03
2. Long, Scott 4.09
3. Sanders, Emmanuel 4.10
4. Williams, Stephen 4.11
5. Roberts, Andre 4.15
6. Parker, Preston 4.16
7. Brown, Antonio 4.18
8. Williams, Kyle 4.19
9. Jones, Donald 4.20
10.McGaha, Chris 4.21


60 Yard Shuttle


1. Long, Scott 11.06
2. White, Blair 11.07
3. Brown, Antonio 11.30
4. Easley, Marcus 11.50
5. Ford, Jacoby 11.58
6. Gilyard, Mardy 11.59

PostHeaderIcon Combine Top Performers: Runningbacks

40 Yard Dash

1. Best, Jahvid 4.35
2. Spiller, C.J. 4.37
3. Tate, Ben 4.43
4. Mathews, Ryan 4.45
5. McKnight, Joe 4.47
6. Hardesty, Montario 4.49
7. Starks, James 4.50
8. Miller, Lonyae 4.53
9. McNeal, Shawnbrey 4.56
10.McCluster, Dexter 4.58


Bench Press: reps of 225 lbs.

1. Miller, Lonyae 26
2. Tate, Ben 26
3. Conner, John 24
4. Gerhart, Toby 22
5. Toston, Keith 22
6. Hardesty, Montario 21
7. McCluster, Dexter 20
8. Mathews, Ryan 19
9. Tonga, Manase 19


Vertical Jump (inches)


1. Hardesty, Montario 41.0
2. Tate, Ben 40.5
3. Dixon, Andre 40.0
4. Paschall, Pat 38.5
5. Gerhart, Toby 38.0
6. McCluster, Dexter 37.5
7. Bell, Joique 36.5
7. McKnight, Joe 36.5
7. Miller, Lonyae 36.5
10.Brown, Chris 36.0
10.James, Javarris 36.0
10.Starks, James 36.0
10.McNeal, Shawnbrey 36.0
10.Mathews, Ryan 36.0


Broad Jump (feet and inches)


1. Hardesty, Montario 10'4"
2. Tate, Ben 10'4"
3. Dixon, Anthony 10'1"
4. Bell, Joique 10'0"
4. McKnight, Joe 10'0"
4. Miller, Lonyae 10'0"
7. Starks, James 9'11"
8. Gerhart, Toby 9'10"
8. Paschall, Pat 9'10"
8. Johnson, Stafon 9'10"


3 Cone Drill


1. Best, Jahvid 6.75
2. Bell, Joique 6.84
3. Blount, LeGarrette 6.85
4. Hardesty, Montario 6.87
5. Starks, James 6.89
6. Tate, Ben 6.91
7. Gerhart, Toby 6.94
8. Scott, Charles 6.98


20 Yard Shuttle


1. McCluster, Dexter 4.06
2. Tate, Ben 4.12
3. Hardesty, Montario 4.14
4. Bell, Joique 4.17
4. Best, Jahvid 4.17
6. Dixon, Andre 4.19
7. Starks, James 4.23
8. Gerhart, Toby 4.25
9. Conner, John 4.29
10.Mathews, Ryan 4.33
10.Paschall, Pat 4.33


60 Yard Shuttle

1. Bell, Joique 11.33
2. Paschall, Pat 11.39
3. Hardesty, Montario 11.47
4. Dixon, Andre 11.55

PostHeaderIcon Combine Top Performers: Quarterbacks

40 Yard Dash

1. Jarrett Brown: 4.54
2. Dan LeFevour: 4.66
3. Zac Robinson : 4.71
4. Tim Tebow: 4.72
5. Colt McCoy: 4.79
6. Thaddeus Lewis: 4.84
7. John Skelton: 4.85
8. Max Hall: 4.87


Bench Press: Reps of 225 lbs.


1. Darryl Clark: 21
2. Levi Brown: 20


Vertical Jump (inches)

1. Tim Tebow: 38.5
2. Zac Robinson: 35
3. Jarrett Brown: 34.5
4. John Skelton: 33.5
5. Jevan Snead: 33
6. Tim Hiller: 32.5
7. Max Hall: 32
8. Mike Kafka: 32


Broad Jump (feet and inches)


1. Hiller, Tim 9'10"
2. Tebow, Tim 9'7"
3. Brown, Jarrett 9'6"
4. McCoy, Colt 9'6"
5. Kafka, Mike 9'2"
6. Robinson, Zac 9'2"
7. LeFevour, Dan 9'2"
8. Pike, Tony 9'0"
9. Skelton, John 9'0


3 Cone Drill


1. Tebow, Tim 6.66
2. LeFevour, Dan 6.93
3. Kafka, Mike 6.96
4. Skinner, Riley 7.04
5. Pike, Tony 7.06
6. Brown, Levi 7.07
7. Hall, Max 7.07


20 Yard Shuttle


1. Tebow, Tim 4.17
2. LeFevour, Dan 4.22
3. Skinner, Riley 4.29
4. Skelton, John 4.33
5. Snead, Jevan 4.33
6. Hall, Max 4.35


60 Yard Shuttle

Name Time
1. Tebow, Tim 11.27
2. Kafka, Mike 11.79
3. Canfield, Sean 11.89
4. Brown, Jarrett 11.91

PostHeaderIcon Combine Top Performers

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PostHeaderIcon Round by Round Top 5

Updated 4/3/2010
Here's a look at Bengals Draft Depot's top 5 realistic prospects per round.

1st Round

1. Earl Thomas,FS,Texas: Thomas just put up a blazing 4.35 a few days ago at the Texas pro day. He's the guy I'd most like the Bengals to land in the 1st round, but it is starting to look like he won't be available at 21. He's the kind of Safety the Bengals are missing, one that has ability to cover in man coverage and makes plays on the ball. The Bengals have definitely shown interest having Thomas in town for a 2 day visit.

2. Brandon Graham,DE,Michigan: This guy's game tape is amazing. He absolutely owned Bryan Bulaga in the Iowa game and Bulaga is a projected top 5 pick. When Odom went down last year so did the pass rush, Graham adds depth at DE and is likely good enough to start now. I think he'd be an upgrade over the overpaid Gathers who would become one of the best backups in the league. Graham does an excellent job of getting penetration vs the run and pass and has the speed to line up at OLB as well.

3. Dez Bryant,WR,Oklahoma State: Yeah Bryant has said some dumb things recently and forgot his cleats, but nothing he's really done has been that bad and he's becoming a target of the media. On the field the guys skills are undeniable and he could come in and probably be the number 2 WR as a rookie. There's no guarantee A. Bryant is gonna be a quick fix at WR so the Bengals may need an early WR. Plus Chad's contract is up after next season. If Bryant is picked by the Bengals they could have the best trio of WR's in the NFL.

4. Mike Iupati,OG,Idaho: I make the statement all the time that if the Bengals spent their 1st round pick on either line every year I would not complain, actually I'd be happy. It looks like Williams is gonna be back, but he's getting up there in age and on the other side they rotated Livings and Mathis. Iupati would be an upgrade over there and it would maybe give the Bengals the best O line depth in the NFL. They would have a quality backup for each spot on the line, Mathis and Livings could back up the 2 Guard spots. Collins backs up Whit, who has already been solid at LT. Roland behind Andre Smith. And Luigs a former Remington winner behind Cook. Football is won and lost in the trenches.

5. Jermaine Gresham,TE,Oklahoma: The Bengals have beat around the bush for years about getting a good TE in here. Gresham is the top TE in the draft and would give Palmer a receiving threat in the middle of the field. His blocking is okay but it's atleast good enough to get him on the field and he can gain weight with his frame. The whole offense could open with a TE that can catch and stretch the middle of the field.

2nd Round

1. Nate Allen,FS,South Florida: Obviously if Thomas is the 1st pick then he's off the list. I'm doing this list under the assumption that's the only round being picked. Allen is a FS that can play all 3 levels, the run, intermediate pass, and the deep ball. I think the FS that can cover is going to become more valuable as the league gets more and more pass happy.

2. Morgan Burnett,FS,Georgia Tech: Burnett played a rover position at Georgia Tech which is like a mix between FS and SS. He can cover very well and plays the run well. I think the Bengals have to have a Safety by the 2nd round due to the schedule of teams that throw it a ton. Zimmer and Lewis will like that Burnett can play both positions.

3. LaMarr Houston,DT,Texas: I'd like to see the Bengals get a DT out of this loaded class. They could get a good one probably into the 4th round. But Houston is a valuable player who can play both DT and DE. He gets after the QB and does a good job vs. the run as well. The Bengals are a Peko injury away from having no depth at DT and a middle of the pack run defense. The more good players on either line the better, especially someone like Houston who can play any spot on the line.

4. Damian Williams,WR,USC: Williams would give the Bengals a good trio of WR's and is ready to play in the NFL now. He is a polished route runner, has good hands, and adequate speed for a WR. He is good with the ball in his hands and can get excellent seperation on underneath routes. That would provide a good possesion WR to move the chains, something the offense was missing last year.

5. Tyson Alualu,DT,California: Again with the DT's, Alualu plays with a motor that doesn't quit and would give the Bengals someone to get pressure up the middle. He played in a 3-4 at Cal and was productive, but he's a better fit in a 4-3 and could end up being one of the best DT's in this draft.


3rd Round



1. Anthony McCoy,TE,USC: He's a good blocking TE that has the ablility to catch and stretch the middle of the field. I think he'd be good value in the 3rd and could take some attention away from the outside keeping Chad and/or Bryant with single coverage.

2. John Jerry,OG,Ole Miss: I think the 3rd is the round to get a Guard. Jerry is massive and a mauler in the run game. The offense is still gonna be a run 1st offense and our interior lineman have to be good run blockers.

3. Mitch Petrus,OG,Arkansas: I have Petrus and Jerry rated about the same. Petrus is a good run blocker, not as good as Jerry but still good. He's a little bit better of a pass blocker but both of their strengths are run blocking. The Bengals love their SEC lineman.

4. Carlton Mitchell,WR,South Florida: The more game tape I watch on this guy the more I like him. He's been one of the fastest risers up the Big Board. He's willing to go over the middle, is one of the biggest WR's in this draft, and also one of the fastest.

5. Mardy Gilyard,WR,Cincinnati: He doesn't have the greatest measurables but bottom line is he was a playmaker in college and has the drive to do the same in the pros. His return abilities add to his value and he wants to be a Bengal.

4th Round


1. Dennis Pitta,TE,BYU: His stock has been rising so by the draft he may be considered a 3rd rounder or even higher. His receiving abliliy is excellent but his blocking is questionable. He'd probably be a project but atleast would give them another option if Coffman doesn't work out.

2. Mike Johnson,OG,Alabama: another jumbo lineman, if the Bengals fail to address Guard by now you'd think one would have to be taken in this round. Johnson is very good and has already played with one of the Bengals lineman.

3. Blair White,WR,Michigan State: This guy was tops in all the drills that matter for WR's at the combine. He has excellent agility and good speed. He is a little raw and should have stayed in school, but I could see this guy being the 2nd coming of Wes Welker. He has the same build, same ability to cut on a dime, and can change directions very quickly.

4. Anthony Dixon,RB,Mississippi State: a big bruising tailback is what the Bengals like. They already have their change of pace back in Scott. Dixon would be insurance in case Ced goes down. Teams must have RB depth as they take a beating as much as anyone if not more.

5. Austen Lane,DE,Murray State: A pass rushing specialist and we all know what happened in the 2nd half of last season. Lane could end up being a sleeper in this draft. The more picks on the lines the better imo.

5th Round

1. Blair White,WR,Michigan State: I have him rated higher than the 5th round, but most people don't and who knows where the NFL teams have him ranked. This guy could be the 2nd coming of Wes Welker. He was in the top 3 in all the agility drills which tells me he can get seperation out of his breaks, and can stop and change directions very quickly.

2. Brandon Lang,DE,Troy: His stock has slipped after a poor 40 time at both the combine and his pro day. He's a situational pass rusher and although his 40 was slow on tape he looks to play much faster going after the QB.

3. Alex Daniels,DE,Cincinnati: He didn't get invited to the combine but at his pro day put up great numbers. He would also be a situational pass rusher and if he can translate is straight line speed to the field he could be a sleeper.

4. Trevard Lindley,CB,Kentucky: 2 years ago he was one of the top Cornerbacks in the country. Since then he's been dealing with injuries and hasn't looked good. If he can get healthy and back to form he could be a steal in the 5th.

5. Robert Johnson,FS,Utah: This guy was a playmaker at Utah. If the Bengals can't get anyone of value in the earlier rounds Johnson could be a good pickup this late.

Sunday, March 28, 2010

PostHeaderIcon Trading Back

The ideal situation for the Bengals would be to trade back into the early 2nd with one of the teams that has multiple 2nd round picks. This draft is the deepest draft maybe in the history of the NFL and the teams that can get the most players in the first 3 rounds may be looking at a bright future with a good core of young players. If they can't find a trading partner with a team with multiple 2nd round picks, a trade for a 2nd, 3rd, and 2nd in 2011 would also be a good trade.

Their best chance at acquiring a couple 2nd round picks will be if a player falls that a team likes and is willing to give up that extra pick to get him. An example would be if maybe the Chiefs take Berry in the 1st and then someone like Anthony Davis or Bruce Campbell is still there and they are really high on them.

If the Bengals are able to pull this off, they could leave this draft with maybe the best young core of players in the NFL. If this happens and you add this draft to last years excellent draft they could end up with 7 or 8 starters out of 2 drafts which is remarkable. Imagine all the positions they could fill with an extra pick or 2, most likely we'd require another late round pick as well due to the trade value chart.

If we had 3 picks in the 2nd and two in the 3rd the options for the Bengals could open up significantly, we could get a couple players at positions where we don't need a starter but for depth. Players that a raw in talent and need to be developed could be taken. With these 5 picks here's who I would target. With the first 2nd round pick I'd take Nate Allen. I don't think he's that much of a downgrade from Earl Thomas and some people even have him ranked above Taylor Mays. He'd be that ballhawking Safety the Bengals need.

The second 2nd round pick would be Damian Williams if available. The USC WR would be an upgrade over Caldwell for the number 3 WR spot and would give the Bengals a trio of WR's that are very good. Teams would be unable to focus all their attention on Chad and the running game would open up even more for Benson. Williams is talented enough by year 2 I could see him competing with Bryant for the number 2 spot.

The third 2nd round pick would be Rob Gronkowski. He ran good 40 times at his pro day alleviating concerns about his back. The back injury is something that could plague him for the rest of his career and is definitely a risk, but with these extra picks it'd be a risk they could take. I believe Gronkowski is the most complete TE in this draft and Carson would finally have a TE that can actually catch the ball. He's able to block as well unlike the other TE we currently have that can catch.

With our first 3rd round pick I'd take Corey Wooten. When Odom went down last year the pass rush pretty much disappeared. Odom's yet to play a full season since he's been here so depth is definitely needed. In the AFC North a team can never have too many good lineman on either side of the ball.

The last pick in the 3rd would have to be a Guard. If John Jerry is there he'd be the player I want. He's big and a mauler in the run game. He can also hold up well against the pass and with Bobbie Williams still not signed a Guard will be needed. Even when they get him signed he's getting up there in years, plus Mathis and Livings could definitely use some competition for the spot on the left side.

Those 5 players would load our team up with depth distributed pretty evenly both on offense and defense. Also in the 4th the Bengals have 2 picks and there is almost certainly gonna be some players there that have the potential to be starters. Remember this draft is very deep so some 4th round picks this year will be as good as 2nd round picks of last years draft. The 4th round I'd definitely grab a DT. It's the most loaded position in this loaded draft and there are 13 or 14 players that project to be starters at some point in their careers. A DT that can rush the passer would definitely be a plus as that was lacking last season pressure up the middle. The other pick I'd go OLB for depth. Dhani is getting up there in age and at some point Rey may have to take over in the middle. Most likely Jeanty would step in and do a good job, but there'd atleast be another option. Plus they could most likely find someone to be a good contributor on special teams.

PostHeaderIcon Player Spotlight: Dez Bryant

Dez Bryant is a top 5 talent in this draft, however some character concerns have been raised and his draft stock has been slipping. On the Bengals Draft Depot Mock Draft he falls to the Dallas Cowboys. But if he ends up falling will the Bengals pass on him? There would be a strong argument to take Dez, obviously the talent would be well worth the 21st pick. There is more to it than that though, after this season Chad only has 1 year left on his contract and that is a club option. The Bengals may have to start preparing for the post Chad era. Also Antonio Bryant is not a sure thing at number 2 WR. He has been inconsistent and injury plagued throughout his career. I want the Bengals to wait for a 1st round WR until next year where there is an abundance of elite WR talent, but if they pick around the same spot is there gonna be anyone there that is as good as Dez Bryant, it's doubtful.

The scouting report on Dez is right now he says he's 6-2, 220 lbs. He likes to play between 210-215 and that's pretty good size for a WR. He has great hands rarely dropping any passes that he can get to. He is very good getting off the line and has good quickness. He has a good vertical and can go up and get the ball in jump ball situations, making him a huge threat in the Red Zone. He runs hard aggresive routes and gets good seperation. He's very good using the double move to get open. He has excellent ball skills and can take it to the house after the catch. He is a return man so his ball skills have to be good to continue returning. Providing that versatility will make him even more valuable to teams.

Some negatives on Bryant are he doesn't have great straight line speed. He needs to eat up cushions a little faster but with his ablility to run underneath routes he should make defenders come up to guard him. There are reports he has a prima donna attitude, Bengals fans are very experienced with this as is their QB. His character does raise some concerns as he was suspended by the NCAA for lying about hanging out with Deion Sanders. These character concerns aren't terrible and if a team needs a WR bad they should definitely not be enough to deter that team.

Overall I'd still rather the Bengals take Thomas over Bryant if both are available. The character concerns are the deciding factor as I consider both players talent levels to be very close. If Thomas is gone and Bryant is available he'd be my next choice. If the Bengals do end up taking him I don't think many could get too upset, he'd fit the BPA montra and he'd be a steal getting a top 5 talent with the 21st pick.
Saturday, March 27, 2010

PostHeaderIcon Player Spotlight: Earl Thomas

Since Earl Thomas will be coming to Cincinnati for a visit on April 1st and there's a decent chance that he could be the 1st round pick for our Bengals, it's time to do a player spotlight on him. I'd say Thomas or Mays is the most wanted pick for Bengals Nation, with Gresham coming in third. Thomas is the guy I want the most out of those we have a realistic shot at getting. I just think what he brings to the table with his coverage skills and ability to step up and support the run he would be an asset to our defense that will keep them in the top 5.

Thomas' scouting report has a lot of positives. He has fluid hips both in his backpedal and turning to run. He has good balance while turning and excellent body control. Although on the shorter side he has an excellent vertical, times his leaps well and goes up and gets the ball. His ball skills are arguably the best in this draft, the argument would be between him and Berry. He has good hands like a WR and when he gets his hands on the ball makes the pick. His instincts are a strength, he recognizes routes very quickly and gets a good jump on them. Putting himself in position to use those good hands to make the pick. He is versatile which Mike Zimmer will love, besides being able to play zone and cover man to man, he can play either Safety or Cornerback. He has great range and can cover a large portion of the field. If he does happen to get beat he has excellent recovery speed. Basically against the pass he can do it all.

Although some consider Thomas undersized he is also very good against the run. Thomas is a sure tackler. He doesn't mind taking on larger blockers and has good lateral pursuit. He always takes good angles unlike another unnamed Safety. His bigger strength is against the outside run.

Some negatives on Thomas is that he is somewhat undersized, and inside against the run he gets manhandled by Guards and Centers. I have heard the argument that he only had 1 great year and 1 decent year. My response to that is how many years do they play in the NCAA? Most players don't start as a freshman and some don't even see the field. Sophomores usually see limited playing time, he started every game he played for 3 seasons for a loaded Texas program and 2 out of 3 years had a good and great season. Then last season he had a phenomenal season. Other than the size knock the only other negative I've seen reported on him is he plays out of control, but of all the footage I've watched on him I haven't really seen that.

Thomas was 2nd on the Texas defense last season in tackles and first in interceptions. He had 8 picks and 24 passes defended, in 13 games that is an almost unheard of amount of both. He's the kind of player I loved watching film on. He flies around the field making play after play on defense. Also he has a very high ceiling, I don't think he's even hit his full potential yet and with added years of experience is going to be even better. His football intelligence is very high and it's reported he has good work ethic. I could easily see him becoming an all-pro Safety and honestly I hope he's the Bengals pick come April 22nd.

PostHeaderIcon Defensive Tackle is Loaded

The Defensive Tackle position is absolutely loaded in this draft. Two of the top three picks could be a DT. The consensus top rated player in this draft is a DT. There's a very good chance five DT's will be taken in the 1st round and up to thirteen could be taken by the 3rd. This DT class is loaded with elite talent and packed with deep talent of players that could be very good contributors to a defense. Also there's a good mix of gap control DT's and penetrating DT's that can cause havoc in the backfield.

So as the pertains to the Bengals do they take advantage of all these good players and possibly take one in the 2nd or 3rd round? Or if someone slips like Dan Williams do they grab him and have a run stuffing duo in the middle? The Bengals shouldn't consider DT a big need as they have 3 very good players at the position currently on their roster. Obviously Safety, Tight End, and Guard are more pressing needs, but who knows if there will ever be this good of a DT class ever again.

I consider DT the most important position on the defense. DT's can shut a teams run game down and if they can penetrate can keep players like Peyton Manning from stepping up in the pocket and picking apart your defense. It all starts up front in the middle. These guys can take up multiple blockers and free your LB's up to make tackles in the run game and rush the QB in the passing game.

Honestly I'd love to see the Bengals grab someone fairly early in the draft. The only one I'd take in the 1st though is Dan Williams. Williams and Peko could be a run stuffing duo comparible to the Williamses in Minnesota. For years the Vikings were tops in the league in run defense due to those two big boys up front. The Bengals run D is already good, with the addition of Williams they'd be downright dominant. Chances are Williams will be gone by the time we pick. If they were willing to trade back someone like Brian Price or Jared Odrick would be available to them. Now these two aren't known as much for their run stopping as their pass rush. That would be fine with me as well, one of them along with a healthy Odom and MJ with another year of experience could be an outstanding line on passing downs.

Most likely 1st round won't be a DT for the Bengals, but I could see them taking someone like Cam Thomas, Alex Carrington, or Tyson Alualu. Thomas is a run stuffer, Alualu is a pass rusher, and Carrington does both pretty well. They all have 2nd to 3rd round grades, likely will go in the 2nd, but if any of them falls to the 3rd that would be an outstanding pick. Even into the 4th or 5th there are gonna be some quality players.

Bottom line is I think the Bengals have to get one of these guys at somepoint in this draft, whether it's the 1st or the 5th round. I'd prefer it be a middle round because I don't think you're going to have this quality of DT available that late ever again. Look what happened when Peko went down last year, teams started to run the ball all over us. In the AFC North depth on the lines is a must, a team can never have too many good players on either line. Plus with the 4 man rotation at DT our guys will remain fresh throughout the game and less likely to get injured to begin with. Whatever the Bengals prefer is fine with me a run stuffer, or a penetrater that comes in on passing downs and gets pressure up the middle. Remember for years the Bengals had no one at DT, now they could be the right player away from having the best DT group in the NFL.

PostHeaderIcon Cornerback Rankings

2011 Rankings Updated 2/3/2011 Underclassman Included


1. Patrick Peterson, LSU
Height: 6-1 Weight: 211
Projected 40 Time: 4.47

2. Prince Amukamara, Nebraska
Height: 6-1 Weight: 200
Projected 40 Time: 4.50

3. Brandon Harris, Miami
Height: 5-11 Weight: 195
Projected 40 Time: 4.43

4. Aaron Williams, Texas
Height: 6-1 Weight: 190
Projected 40 Time: 4.47

5. Jimmy Smith, Colorado
Height: 6-2 Weight: 203
Projected 40 Time: 4.50

6. Curtis Brown, Texas
Height: 6-0 Weight: 180
Projected 40 Time: 4.39

7. Brandon Burton, Utah
Height: 6-0 Weight: 187
Projected 40 Time: 4.48

8. Ras-I Dowling, Virginia
Height: 6-2 Weight: 200
Projected 40 Time: 4.52

9. Johnny Patrick, Louisville
Height: 5-11 Weight: 185
Projected 40 Time: 4.45

10. Kendrick Burney, North Carolina
Height: 5-9 Weight: 182
Projected 40 Time: 4.40

11. Rashad Carmicheal, Virginia Tech
Height: 5-11 Weight: 186
Projected 40 Time: 4.43

12. Davon House, New Mexico State
Height: 6-0 Weight: 185
Projected 40 Time: 4.44

13. Demarcus Van Dyke, Miami
Height: 6-1 Weight: 170
Projected 40 Time: 4.52

14. Chykie Brown, Texas
Height: 6-0 Weight: 187
Projected 40 Time: 4.40

15. Marcus Gilchrist, Clemson
Height: 5-11 Weight: 190
Projected 40 Time: 4.48

16. Jalil Brown, Colorado
Height: 6-0 Weight: 202
Projected 40 Time: 4.50

17. Chimdi Chekwa, Ohio State
Height: 6-0 Weight: 188
Projected 40 Time: 4.52

18. Brandon Hogan, West Virginia
Height: 5-10 Weight: 191
Projected 40 Time: 4.39

19. Shareece Wright, USC
Height: 5-11 Weight: 182
Projected 40 Time: 4.47

20. Devon Torrance, Ohio State
Height: 6-1 Weight: 193
Projected 40 Time: 4.43

21. Mario Butler, Georgia Tech
Height: 6-1 Weight: 182
Projected 40 Time: 4.48

22. Chris Harris, Kansas
Height: 5-11 Weight: 188
Projected 40 Time: 4.45

23. Charles Brown, North Carolina
Height: 5-10 Weight: 195
Projected 40 Time: 4.49

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2011 Rankings Updated 4/27/2010 Underclassman Included


1. Bruce Carter, North Carolina
Height: 6-3 Weight: 225
Projected 40 Time: 4.57
Projected: Top 15 Pick

2. Von Miller, Texas A&M
Height: 6-2 Weight: 240
Projected 40 Time: 4.56
Projected: 1st Round

3. Travis Lewis, Oklahoma
Height: 6-2 Weight: 232
Projected 40 Time: 4.53
Projected: 1st-2nd Round

4. Zach Brown, North Carolina
Height: 6-2 Weight: 220
Projected 40 Time: 4.49
Projected: 1st-2nd Round

5. Mark Herzlich, Boston College
Height: 6-4 Weight: 238
Projected 40 Time: 4.68
Projected: 2nd Round
* If fully healthy could move to number 1 on this list. Won his battle vs. cancer so far!

6. Colin McCarthy, Miami
Height: 6-3 Weight: 242
Projected 40 Time: 4.61
Projected: 2nd Round

7. Akeem Ayers, UCLA
Height: 6-4 Weight: 252
Projected 40 Time: 4.68
Projected: 2nd Round

8. Adrian Robinson, Temple
Height: 6-2 Weight: 248
Projected 40 Time: 4.63
Projected: 2nd-3rd Round

9. Ross Homan, Ohio State
Height: 6-1 Weight: 230
Projected 40 Time: 4.63
Projected: 3rd Round

10. Bruce Miller, Central Florida
Height: 6-2 Weight: 253
Projected 40 Time: 4.70
Projected: 3rd Round

11. Nigel Bradham, Florida State
Height: 6-3 Weight: 237
Projected 40 Time: 4.56
Projected: 3rd-4th Round

12. Emmanuel Acho, Texas
Height: 6-2 Weight: 235
Projected 40 Time: 4.65

13. Micheal Morgan, USC
Height: 6-4 Weight: 224
Projected 40 Time: 4.63

14. Sean Spence, Miami
Height: 6-0 Weight: 212
Projected 40 Time: 4.45

15. Jerry Franklin, Arkansas
Height: 6-1 Weight: 241
Projected 40 Time: 4.69

16. Jonathon Freeny, Rutgers
Height: 6-3 Weight: 250
Projected 40 Time: 4.73

17. Lawrence Wilson, Connecticut
Height: 6-1 Weight: 220
Projected 40 Time: 4.56

18. Ricky Elmore, Arizona
Height: 6-5 Weight: 250
Projected 40 Time: 4.66

19. Cliff Matthews, South Carolina
Height: 6-4 Weight: 249
Projected 40 Time: 4.65

20. Nate Irving, NC State
Height: 6-1 Weight: 235
Projected 40 Time: 4.68

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